If you were living at your highest potential what would your life look like? What would the world look like if communities strived to tap into their highest potential together? We as a species are the product of the collaborative efforts, achievements and experiences of the generations who’ve walked this Earth in front of us. Jamal Früster discusses how the Human Potential Movement Podcast can introduce you to some of the world’s most amazing minds who have risen and stepped into their power. Your potential can improve each and every day through your actions. When one’s potential elevates, the potential for humanity elevates, we are all connected! Learn more about cultivating a motivated mindset to unlock your true potential – all in this riveting, informative discussion with Jamal Früster.
On the podcast we have Jamal Fruster. Jamal is a cohost of a great podcast that is doing some amazing things called the Human Potential Movement Podcast available on iTunes and other podcast platforms. I just shared my story on his podcast. Jamal is an extremely motivated individual whose mission is to inspire and get people to reach their optimal potential through chiropractic, wellness and a positive mindset. Please welcome, Jamal Fruster.
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Cultivating A Motivated Mindset With Jamal Früster
We have future Dr. Jamal Fruster. Jamal, how are you? Pleasure to have you on.
Excellent. Thanks for the opportunity to connect.
Jamal, you are also a fellow podcaster of the Human Potential Movement on iTunes, a cohost. We just had your co-host on, Miguel, and he’s awesome. You guys are on fire. You guys are doing some great work.
Thank you very much. It’s an honor and privilege.
Jamal, where are you from originally?
I’m from East Hartford, Connecticut, right next to Hartford. I grew up in a suburb near Glastonbury, Connecticut. A very diverse community with a lot of different types of people that was just absolutely massive for my growth and appreciating people.
What was your childhood like? What were you into growing up?
Being in part of Glastonbury, I’m black and Peruvian. My mom’s from Peru, dad’s from South Carolina. I grew up in a very wonderful loving home.
How did your family end up in Connecticut? Your dad’s from South Carolina, mom’s from Peru. Interesting spot for two people to end up.
They’re just on a whole other level, very freaking loving. My mom, she was like, “I call him my son.” She’s always exuding energy, positive vibes. Dad’s been my rock throughout my life journey. Just being my guru in life, with so many life lessons. My dad moved up to Connecticut with my grandma and his younger brother, when my grandfather and my grandma’s split, ended up in East Hartford, Connecticut. That’s where he grew up. Mom came up when she was eleven years old with few of my aunts and my uncles, for new beginnings because she grew up in Lima, Peru. Connecticut just happened to be that place where they had a family tie or a friend to start new, essentially. They had to start from ground up.
That’s got to be one hell of a journey doing that.
My brother’s name is Grit. I’m 100%, 1,000%, a million percent believe I was able to instill some of the grit that my mom and dad really just had to have by choice, in terms of just carving out their existence. Then very humble beginnings that I now appreciate just more and more each and every day, the sacrifices, the hours worked in the snow like my dad. He’s a blue-collar worker. He’s worked busted his ass. He did anything and everything for me and my sister. I have a younger sister, she just graduated, she’s 22. They just set such an example for us and pave the ground so that we have stuff that they couldn’t even have dreamed of having.
America is getting older now and the generations are getting further from off the boat from Ellis Island and everything. That’s something you can’t teach. That’s something you saw firsthand. The work ethic and how beautiful this country actually is that most people take for granted. I see so many people complaining about the stupidest stuff in this country, that we all forget how lucky we are to be here. You can make yourself anything in America. I don’t care what anybody says. You can be a self-made person in America, hands down. You have witnessed that firsthand.
It’s a great reason and perspective when we are able to appreciate everything. They didn’t leverage in social media. When it comes to creating a new practice, one man or woman can have an influence on the international level if they like through that social media. Just your speaking out on many truths and we have such an opportunity, that I’d be disrespectful to my parents if I didn’t capitalize on that.
You’re extremely passionate about what you do, especially still even being in school. It’s awesome to see that fire in you. Where did your health journey start? Were you always going to the chiropractor? Were you thinking about something else? Where does your health journey start?
I grew up in a typical America. I’ve got some vaccines when I was younger. I don’t remember a lot of them, like 72, three or five nowadays.
I think the vaccine protocol has tripled since the early ‘80s or ‘90s. It’s something absurd.
I actually didn’t discover chiropractic until my junior year of undergrad where I actually messed up my back because I used to run track and field for Central Connecticut State University. That’s where that all began. My coach referred me to a chiropractor that was close. I went and got adjusted and just had a massive respect for him. Dr. Richard Cutting and Dr. Nick, I just have such respect. I was a PE Major at the time and I just switched to nursing, so I knew I wanted to help people.
You’ve got that chiropractic adjustment, did that open up some doors for you? This might be something I want to do?
It did. My doc at the time, he was like, you’ll make a great chiropractor. You know the anatomy and just such reverence for that. I was like, doc, I love to but I can’t be chiropractor. I’m not smart enough. Then the universe, you can say, God, whatever your religious or affiliation with the bigger power is. I believe it was that summer. I was working at a restaurant where I was a busser, bar back during the summers as I worked in. I actually got the chance to connect with Dr. Moshe Laub and Dr. Sarah, his wife at a table and they love my energy. I love theirs. We had great conversation. Long story short, Sarah reached out over Facebook.
After you’re waiting on them at the table?
Yes. There’s something about when a table asks you for your name as a busser, you acknowledge me as a human. I’ll give you all the bread, whatever you want. She just said, Jamal, it’s just shot in the dark but we loved your energy. We’d love for you to essentially come see our practice and see if you like to come and work for us.
Was there any talk of Chiropractic?
There was a little bit. I don’t even remember. I honestly don’t recall even mentioning that because it was a busy night.
That’s one of the most beautiful things when you run into something like that.
There’s no coincidence neither. I actually didn’t see that message because we weren’t friends. Facebook pushes it to other whatever you don’t see. I saw it months later and I messaged her, “Is that opportunity still available?” I’ve got the chance to go finally connect with them. I became a medical scribe. That was my transition almost out of the restaurant realm. Once I saw the magic this man was working, it took maybe a week or something. I need to be doing this because people will just transform. I would see them. I’d be behind the screen typing and they would come in and they’d just be sitting in pain, suffering and then after a few visits they would be vibrating life. They’d be engaging with me. They’d been engaging with the staff. I need this. He recommended Life University because he had a past massage therapists go down there and he had nothing but great things to say. Once I saw that campus, the breath in the passion, the energy, just the life of those people. I say no more. I switched my major, my spring of my junior year. I actually had to take two eighteen credit semesters. I went to a summer course to stay eligible for track and field. That was the greatest decision I could have ever made.
It will forever blow my mind that you can put your hands on somebody, we’re not taking away the pain. We’re removing the interference for that person to heal and get them better. That will just always forever blow that you as a doctor or a chiropractor or a person have that power, that’s just baffling to me.
It just literally blows my mind. We have the greatest secret. It deals with consciousness of people and it’s helping them to have an image of a quality of life that they didn’t even know was possible until they get a present time chiropractor, someone that’s put in the work. Someone that gives a damn. You can attest to that when all these other doors have just been slammed in their face. We’re that change.
We’re making headway. We’ve got podcasts out there. People can do their own research now, it’s not coming straight from the TV or just out of the doctor’s mouth. Now, people can make decisions for themselves and find the research, which is a beautiful thing and you’re helping them with your podcast. Where did you get that idea? What made you want to do the podcasts? Because most people in your situation have a lot of their plate. Chiropractic school is a lot to handle. There are a lot on your plate. What made you go for it?
It’s just been an amazing journey. Through one of my mentors, Dr. Michael Dibley, who I met through Kairos Training Culture and the Artful Chiropractor Podcast. I just reached out to him because his title was international chiropractic ambassador. That sounds freaking awesome. To be able to do what you do. Get him up on Facebook and say, “Doc, I listen to your message. You are the man. How can I connect? How can I do what you’re doing?” I think he sent me a reply. It’s just one word, quantum connection or something, a weblink talked and long story short, my dealings with the 360 Global Ambassador Group and connecting with Dr. Dibley and Dr. Verderame over in Brussels, Belgium for one of their seminars called Axiom. Connecting with them face to face, him and his wife, Katrina. I just love every part of the group.
He calls me one day, end of my fifth quarter. He’s like, “Jamal, an opportunity came up perhaps to create a podcast and I couldn’t see anyone else doing it but you. Would this be something you’re interested in?” I’m just like, “Okay,” and run it for a day. I had to say yes because the universe or God provides, there’s no reason or there’s no coincidence for that. I definitely need some help. Miguel Serrano, he’s a Whiz with imaging and graphics and flyers and that capacity. He’s from Puerto Rico and I figured it’d be a good dynamic. It’s been a fun journey thus far and granted us being a transplant, we’re still learning. This is how we work and everything together and ask them questions.
That’s interesting that you say that because as a person you don’t need to know how to do everything. You just need to surround yourself with people that can help get you there, that have that same vision as you. You realize that at a very, very young age which is great and it’s just crazy how you can just reach out. You can reach out to somebody and some people answer and some people don’t. That’s just a really powerful connection you had with Dr. Dibley. It’s crazy to me that he was just like, “Jamal, you’re my guy. I don’t know you that well, but there’s something I think that people can feel that you will never be able to quantify.” You meet somebody really quick and you feel you’ve known them forever. I don’t know what that is. What do you think that is?
I attribute it to that something. If you want to get a little Chiropractic philosophical related but tone profession on, but you feel the vibrations or you can pick up on things and your body literally picks up on that energy of them. You can tell if someone’s being backhanded or other intentions or they’re being transparent. You have that connection on the soul level where it feels you have known him forever.
Where did you think you picked that up from? Because I can tell you’re very open to that. Not a lot of people are. Everybody feels it, a lot of people shut it off. Where do you think you picked that up from?
Two places. My mom, she can literally walk in a room and light it up like puppies with babies, literally whoever and get them to smile. Just being open and in that capacity. Growing up, I got picked on, bullied. I had a real struggle in finding my voice. I had a good few friends.
What was going on when you were just struggling a little bit, do you know?
I was just trying to find my voice. I tried speaking Spanish when I was younger. I felt embarrassed because it looks weird when we would get in public or whatever. I actually didn’t connect with a lot of, I had my family. My dad’s side, my black side and there wasn’t a lot of black people in suburban East Hartford. When I went to middle school and they saw me wearing different clothes or speaking a certain way, they call me white boy. It was a real struggle for my identity. I didn’t know what that translated into a lot of anger and depression. One thing I did not like doing was just playing video games. I could channel my energy into sports, soccer, wrestling and track and then that actually blossomed really well and paid off in college. I didn’t have that. The fact that I have all these amazing people opportunities, I value them so much more. I literally get a charge from them because, they didn’t know that people in general, but I didn’t, I was in abundance of people, genuine loving people. I seriously value anyone I get the chance to connect to and you have the opportunity to dive into a quality authentic, vulnerable conversations. I don’t like doing superficial shit.
I don’t like small talk. I’m getting down to it. It gets to me after a while, you go on social media and you see a lot of people just posting things and you’re just, what the fuck are you doing? What are you talking about? Everybody does it. I get caught up into it, but it’s just the focus is in the wrong spot. It’s very frustrating at times and it riles me up a little bit.
I think it goes back to Kairos Training Culture, Dr. Brett Jones, Dr. Lance von Stade, the thousands of people that are involved in that culture. They really helped me open up and dive deep into the profession. What’s possible with the adjustment and expression and how it’s self-expression. I believe it’s a quote out of How to Win Friends and Influence People. The quote was, “Self-expression is a dominant necessity of human nature.” What better way to connect that with chiropractors? Dr. Josh talked about how people are so big about highlighting the highlights or highlighting all the good shit that’s happened in their life, but they’re scared to show the struggle. They’re scared to show how hard shit is or their failures. It’s that vulnerability that makes them look like a superhero when they do shit. What if that was the norm? How can we cultivate that compared to everything being Instagram worthy?
What a lot of us don’t realize is failure is one of the best things that could ever happen to you What you learned from failure is so much better than just having success all the time. You learn from what you failed at and you don’t make the same mistake twice and you get better from it rather than just winning, winning, winning. It’s good but in the long run, people are scared to fail and you learn so much from failing.
That’s one thing I definitely think about it, just talking about it now. I learned so many ways. I wanted the right way. We’re training, you had to struggle. I had to struggle to find my connection. As soon as I got those few people as my coach. I remembered at high school got me my first job, and then I could actually get a paycheck. That paycheck I could put to whatever gave me some flexibilities. I had to try and work my way and get out. It’s all about getting out of your comfort zone. People who don’t fail, when they do have the opportunity to fail, you can apply it to class. Like some of my peers, all across the world you can even say and whatever undergrad, doctorate program, when they fail a class, it’s the end of the world. Why? You can retake that class? It’s okay. It’s not going to devalue you as a human. You’re a failure if you don’t get up and you don’t keep trying and you don’t keep looking for a way to succeed.
It’s funny too because some of the best doctors that were in my class were not straight A students. Some of the best doctors were just getting by with C’s, but it’s really not all about the books. They did what they had to do and they are phenomenal doctors. They’re phenomenal with their hands. They’re phenomenal talking to people. They could care less if they got 100 on an exam. That’s good. You need to get good grades and everything, but what’s really important at the end of the day. Some people are really good at regurgitating information, but it really comes down to as a chiropractor, what are you doing to serve the people.
If you can’t communicate this message and your hands don’t work. It doesn’t matter if you know about the whole cell process and you know apoptosis or you know whatever it is. I value that as a student. I thoroughly value connection and I just refused to let my school and get in the way of my education. That’s where I see a massive opportunity. In a university, there are 2,000 something students. Just tap into this potential.
I’ve never been personally the guy that will tell you everything. I can tell you every single function that goes into the Kreb cycle. I remembered it and it was in one year after the other and there were people that I was listening to that were regurgitating it. They knew it down, but that’s just not me. That’s not how my brain works. I’m very good at what I do though.
I think it goes to waking people up, because it’s a system like being in school. It’s a system we have to get to go to boards. Bang out those first six sciences. That first two years in school and then we can then move on to the applicable chiropractic stuff. People are getting caught up and scared to fail or they are not going to graduate in three and a half years but we’re taking 29, 28 and a half on average for credits, which I laugh at the eighteen credits I took during the semester. I modified, I’m taking 21 and a half still in eleven, ten weeks. It’s just waking people up to, not what’s important in life, I’m trying to find the words, but what’s possible. If we continue to lean into one another more and helped each other expand in the science, philosophy, art, and even in the business. Getting out of the poverty mindset and valuing the adjustment and what we do.
Do you notice too, we had a technique class? Once a week, a new technique would come into our class and teach us about their technique and what they do. I noticed about 75% of the class, their minds would be shut before they heard the technique. They’re like, “This isn’t going to work.” They weren’t even receptive. They weren’t going to let this guy give a chance. There’s so much you
can learn from everybody. Everybody can teach you something and the open mind is just one of the best things you can have. This is one of the best things ever.
It’s an interesting time in chiropractic. We know there’s a new millennial generation. We’re coming up and I really just get this feeling what KTC and all that had been involved and what I’ve seen. We’re pulling from so many seminars and so many people in unity with respect to diversity. I think that can be applied to humans in general. That’s the value of it. If people asked more questions for understanding instead of just judging because it’s different. That’s prejudice right there from skin color. If you want to go there. We all have a piece of the puzzle that works. As long as you’re a master and you give a damn and you invested something on that technique. The more open minded we can be, the better off we’ll evolve as species and as a professional.
To go off of that book you mentioned, How to Win Friends and Influence People. The one thing I took away from that book was it was one of the main points. All it was was listen, don’t speak. Just let the other person talk. Even if you don’t agree with somebody, listen, let the other person talk and I promise you eventually they will talk themselves into a circle. Most people just think they know everything, if you just let them go, they will eventually just talk themselves into a circle where you don’t have to say anything and the conversation is over.
It’s amazing when you do hold space for people. It’s maybe a thing in school but when people get the chance to go a green light, “You’ve got a minute?” “I’ve got a minute, talk to me.” That permission, they go and then afterwards you see their shoulders go, “How’s your day? What do you do? Chiropractic? Sounds great.”
Jamal, what are your plans for the future? How much time you’ve got left at school?
I’ve got about two years. I’ll be going in a student clinic. Ideally in the fall, I’ll be lighting up students on campus, which I’m very excited for our plans for the future. Definitely got to go take care of mom and dad up in Connecticut.
You’re going back?
Just for a bit perhaps. It’s changed so much, but at the same time it hasn’t, but just want to be a beacon of possibility of health, of community, for East Hartford. Connect to my high school, which I’m going to speak out in the future. I’ll go to my undergrad also to speak out in the future and really just bolster chiropractic. If I can be a doctor, you guys can be a doctor and I didn’t think I’d be a doctor. I promise you I would have laughed in your face. I definitely want to have a clinic around life university to give students another peak and you know what’s possible and the adjustment and connection, bolster Marietta, which is where Life University is located at. Afterwards, shoot San Diego, my best friend Harris is out there.
That’s the spot right there; San Diego. It’s perfect. There’s not getting any better than San Diego.
Beautiful and expensive but for the culture, the vibes out there, it’s amazing. Taking chiropractic to the world and I say with absolute certainty, with the connections I’ve made through school, it’s been absolutely abundant in Europe. I love to go to Spain and Portugal, will help expand chiropractic there in particular. Then Peru, Colombia, Peru, being my mom’s home. Grandpa still lives there and he donated to my mission trip saying, “I’m so proud of you.” The parents or your friends, your loved ones have so many things to talk about before which just at home. Just continue to play my role, whatever that may look like and expand consciousness to human beings. Spread what’s possible at health, but just let people know that they have options to take control of their life and in their health.
You’re well on your way. If there’s one thing that you’ve taken with you, with all your life experiences that you would like to leave with the audience, tough question, but what would it be?
I’d say find your voice. Give yourself the permission to live your utmost life. Cry when you want to cry. Laugh hard when you want to laugh. Be around people that maximize your life per moment and that can look in any shape or form, and if they’re not congruent or you find yourself growing or diverging from people, that’s okay, because it’s setting yourself up for people who are going to honor you and help you flourish in life. Bring your gifts to the table and don’t you dare give yourself permission to not do that.
Jamal, thank you so much for coming on. Where can people find you on social media and your podcast and everything?
On Facebook, you can just search me Jamal Fruster. On Instagram which is just @jfruster. Give us a follow on the Human Potential Movement podcast. You can find that on iTunes, on Google Play, on Spotify, whatever medium that works for you, give it a search. You should definitely listen to our most recent one, Dr. Kevin Pecca himself. If you’d like to hear his fire and his story, feel free. I’m an open book. I love building relationships, so always reach out.
Jamal, thank you so much.
Much love and appreciation.
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